Osho-Prem

Born December 11, 1931, in Kuchwada, Madhya Pradesh, Osho is a contemporary Indian mystic and philosopher. One of the great spiritual minds of our time, he is renowned for his penetrating understanding of the nature of life, modern Western society and spiritual disciplines of all kinds.

Osho became enlightened on March 21, 1953 at the age of twenty-one.
Between 1957 and 1966 he was a University  Professor and prize-winning public speaker.

 From 1958 he left the University and began the devotion of his life to the raising of human consciousness. His revolutionary talks and meditation camps drew crowds of thousands everywhere in India. He brought his teachings to the West and developed a devoted following among Westerners as well.

Osho suffered persecution and imprisonment, but survived to return to India and revitalize his following and ashram. He departed this life in pune, India on January 19, 1990,  probably as a result of thallium poisoning while in custody in Oklahoma in 1985.

 

27.science & astrology

Astrology was a means for making man religious – for bringing him to suchness,

for bringing him to an ultimate acceptance.

It has many dimensions, it has many aspects.

 We will gradually discuss each dimension. For today, just this much: that the universe is a living body, an organic unity. In it nothing is isolated, all is connected. Whatever is far away is connected to that which is near, nothing is separate.

So no one should remain in a fallacy that he is an isolated island, separate, aloof. Each one is connected to the whole, and each one is all the time affecting the other and being affected by the other. Even when you pass by a stone lying on the road, it is throwing its vibrations in your direction. The flowers too are throwing out their vibrations. And you are not just passing by, you too are throwing out your vibrations.

I said that we are affected by the moon and the stars. Another idea that astrology has is that the moon and the stars are affected by us, because influence comes from both directions. Whenever a man like Buddha is born on the Earth, the moon may not realize that it is because of him that storms are not arising on its surface and that because of  Buddha the storms have subsided. The moon is affected and the sun is also moved.

When spots occur on the sun and storms arise, diseases spread across the Earth. When a person like Buddha is born on the Earth, a current of peace flows, the pillar of consciousness grows strong, and the deep beauty of meditation moves over the Earth; which also makes it difficult for a storm to arise on the sun because everything is joined together.

A tiny blade of grass has an impact on the sun, and the sun has its impact on the blade of grass. The blade of grass is not so tiny that the sun can say, “I do not care about you,” nor is the sun so big that it can say, “What can this blade of grass do for me?” Life is inter connected. Here nothing is big or small; everything is one organic unity.

Life is a whole. You will only understand astrology if you can perceive this wholeness, otherwise you will not. 

Now, I  have to finally  agree in 1979 , that Astrology is a Perfect Science, a Super Science.

This discourse by the name of Astrology: The Science of Cosmic Oneness was given by Osho to a live audience on 9th July 1981 at 6.15 p.m. in Woodlands, Bombay, India. This is extremely interesting and highly informative. I hope you will gain some deeper insight into the world of Astrology through it. 

Osho

26.science & astrology

If everything is latent within the human seed, then it is only a matter of studying the seed.

What I am talking about today must in some form have existed in my seed as a potentiality; otherwise, how could I talk about all this? If some day it becomes possible to observe a human seed, then after observing my seed, a blueprint could be drawn up indicating what I will say in this life, what I will become, what I will not become, what I will make of myself, what I will not make of myself, and what will happen. All this could be forecast. It will not be surprising when, maybe tomorrow if not today, we have the capacity to peep into the human seed. The first steps have already been taken in this direction.

Birth charts and horoscopes are  a probing into all these matters. For thousands of years when a child is born, we have tried to find out what he will become. If we could get some idea, then perhaps we could make some arrangements, and perhaps we could increase the child’s opportunities. Then whatever is to happen, we could become accepting of it.

Towards the end of his life, Mulla Nasruddin declared that he had always been miserable, but that suddenly one day he had become happy. The entire population of the village was struck with wonder that a man who had always been depressed, who had always seen the dark side of things, should suddenly have become cheerful. He was a man who had always been pessimistic, who had always looked for thorns.

Once there was an excellent crop in Nasruddin’s garden. There were so many apples that the trees were overloaded. One man in the neighborhood inquired whether Nasruddin could now have any complaint. He said, “This time the crop is such that it will rain gold. What do you think, Nasruddin?”

In great sorrow Nasruddin said, “Everything is okay, but where will I get rotten apples to feed the animals?”

Such a man always remains miserable: “Where will I get rotten apples to feed the animals?” All the apples were good, none were rotten – this was his difficulty. Suddenly one day this man became happy, and so the people of the village were curious. They asked, “You are happy, Nasruddin? What is the secret?”

Nasruddin said, “I have learned to cooperate with the inevitable. After many years of struggling, I have realized something. Now I have decided that what must be, must be. Now I cooperate with the inevitable, so now there is no reason to be miserable. Now I am happy.”

Astrology investigates many things. It lends a cooperative hand to whatever is inevitable. It does not unnecessarily struggle against whatever is to be. It does not demand or reach out towards whatever is not to be.

25.science & astrology

It seems that there is never a mistake.

Only a mango tree emerges; everything is repeated correctly. Stored in this tiny seed is all the information which relates to what the seed must do ñ how it must sprout, what type of leaf and how many branches to produce, how big a tree to become, for how long it will grow, how tall it will grow – all this must be hidden within the seed. How many mangoes, how sweet, whether they will ripen or not and all this must be concealed within the seed. If all this is concealed just within a mango seed, then when you come into your mother’s womb will there be nothing latent in your seed?

Now scientists agree that even at this stage the color of your eyes must lie concealed, that the color of your hair must lie concealed, that the height of your body must lie concealed, that the possibilities of health and ill health must lie concealed, and that even your IQ must lie concealed – because without all this how would you develop? And by what means? You must have a program that is built-in in advance. How will certain bones join together as a hand, and others as a foot? One part will begin to see, another part will begin to hear. How can all this happen? Scientists used to say that it is just coincidence. But the word coincidence seems very unscientific. Coincidence means chance. By chance a foot might begin to see and a hand to hear. But there does not seem to be much coincidence; everything seems to be in order, prearranged.

Astrology says a more scientific thing. It says that everything is available within the seed. Astrology says that if we study the seed, if we can discover the language of the seed and if we can decode this language and if we can ask the seed, “What is your intention?” – then we will be able to draw up the complete blueprint of a human being too. Scientists have already begun to draw up such blueprints for plants. Up to now we have considered astrology to be superstition, a matter of blind faith. But if science draws up such blue-prints, it will in fact become astrology – and certainly science has already begun to draw up such blueprints.

Astrology declares that if by divine grace we can come to know the whole, then the future as such will not exist. But because we do not know the whole and we know only a small fragment and what we do not know becomes the future. We are obliged to say, “Perhaps it will be like this.” and because much is unknown to us. If the whole were known then we could say, “It will be like this.” And it would be exactly so.

24.science & astrology

Nature gives each person a thumb which is uniquely his, which is individual and unrepeatable.

Nature keeps such a subtle account that it gives each person a thumb which is uniquely his, and a thumbprint which can never belong to anyone else, neither now nor in the future. Several billion people may have lived on the Earth, several billion people may live on the Earth in the future, but my thumbprint will not be repeated. You may be surprised to learn that even in the case of twins born out of one egg their thumb-prints will differ from one another.

If nature can bestow so much individuality on each person with regard to a worthless thing like a thumb and a thing which is of no special value and which seems to fulfill no special purpose and if nature can even give a thumb a uniqueness, then can’t it give each man a unique life and a unique soul? There seems to be no reason why it should not. But science moves in slow motion  and it is good! For science, slow motion is good. Until a fact has been completely proved, it is not good to move forward even an inch. But prophets can take a leap. They can declare what will happen in a thousand or even a hundred thousand years and  right now.

Science moves forward inch by inch. It sees only facts, facts that can be experimented upon. Dreaming is of no use to science, but prophets can discover truth even in dreams. For them, even the future is simply the expanded present. Astrology is basically an investigation of the future. And science is basically the investigation of the past. Science is the investigation of the cause of all that exists today. Astrology is the investigation of the effect of all that exists today. Between the two there is a huge gap. But every day science experiences new things, and the theories which seemed impossible have begun to seem possible.

As I have said, science has only recently accepted that every person is born with a built-in individuality. For a long time it has been reluctant to accept the validity of this idea. But astrology has always been saying this. Just try to understand….

For instance, take a seed, a mango seed…when we sow the mango seed, contained within it there must be some sort of built-in program, there must be a blueprint. If this were not so, the seed would be helpless. It neither takes advice from a specialist nor does it study at a university…. How then can a mango tree develop out of this seed? Still, it produces the mango-tree leaf, it bears the mango fruit. Concealed in the stone-like seed there must be a complete program. Without such a program what could the seed do? Everything must be present within it. Whatever the tree will be, must somehow be concealed within the seed. It is not visible to us. We can smash it and dissect it, and it will still not be visible. But it must be there somehow, otherwise a neem tree might possibly emerge from the mango seed.

23.science & astrology

If your mind undergoes a change, then the lines on your palm will immediately change.

If under hypnosis you are assured that after fifteen days you will die, and if every day for fifteen days you are made unconscious and assured in your unconscious state that you will die after fifteen days… whether you actually die or not, your life-line will be broken at the proportional length of fifteen days. A gap will have appeared in your life-line; the body will accept the notion that death is on its way.

The lines traced on the body are a very superficial phenomenon. Deep within is the mind. However, the mind with which you are familiar does not exist deep down; it is superficial. Deep down there is a mind which you do not know at all. The centers that exist deep within this body, which yoga calls chakras, are the accumulated forms of many lives. One who knows can, by placing his hand on a particular chakra, discover how active it is. By touching your seven chakras, it can be known whether you have ever experienced them or not.

I have experimented with the chakras of hundreds of people and I have been surprised to find that at the most one or two, and only rarely three, chakras have begun to be activated; generally, they remain dormant. You have never used them, but they are your past. If a man who has experienced them comes to me, and I can see that all his seven chakras are active, then it can be said that this is his last birth. Then there will not be another birth, because if all seven chakras are active, there is no possibility of another life. This life will be nirvana, this life will be liberation.

If someone came to Mahavir, he made it his concern to discover how many chakras were active in the person and how much work must be done with him, what his possibilities were, when and whether his labor would bear any fruit or not, and how many more births he would need.

Astrology is an attempt to probe the future by many, many paths. Among these  and the most commonly used path and  is the study of how the planets and stars influence man. For this, more scientific evidence is becoming available every day. This much has been decided and proved life is affected and cannot avoid being affected by these influences. Only the second part remains difficult to determine: whether each person is also affected as an individual. It worries scientists a little whether each person is affected individually, whether the three or four billion people on this planet are each affected as individuals. But they must realize that it is so.

But why are they so troubled?

22.science & astrology

Many illnesses come to you only because of this time-track.

Many illnesses fit into this category: for instance, hay fever or asthma. For the patient who suffers from hay fever, a fixed date exists: every year on the same date, at the same time, his hay fever returns. So there can be no remedy for this hay fever. Why?…because hay fever is not actually a bodily illness, it is a time-track illness. Somewhere a memory has been fixed, somewhere a memory has been blocked.

For instance, a man has a memory related to the twelfth of the month during the rainy season. When the twelfth comes, when the rainy season comes, the man is getting ready; he is already afraid of what will happen. You will be surprised that the hay fever which will now attack him is just something he is reliving and  it is not really hay fever at all. He is only reliving what occurred on the twelfth, the previous year. If you give him any treatment now, you will only be putting him in more trouble. Medical treatment is of no use because he is not the same man who existed a year ago, and who at that time could have been treated. You are unnecessarily throwing the medicine away, because it is going into the man who exists now, not into the man who was sick a year ago. There is no connection between the two, no relationship. Every medicine will fail, every medicine will only increase his hay fever and so he will say that nothing is working. He is again getting ready to repeat what happened the previous year. Seventy percent of our illnesses happen through the time-track. They have been caught and grasped so tightly that we relive them again and again.One great astrologer  sudhir from bombay told me from my horoscope that you will suffer from asthma and it will be repeat in same season.he was right and today I have to belive in astrology.

Astrology is not merely the study of the stars, although it includes that. We will talk about this. Besides the study of the stars, there are other, separate, dimensions through which astrology tries to probe man’s future, by which it can get hold of the future.

In order to become aware of the future, it is necessary to become aware of the past. In order to be aware of the past, it is necessary to read the inscriptions traced on your body and on your mind. There are inscriptions on your body and there are inscriptions on your mind. From the time astrology became obsessed with these bodily inscriptions, it could no longer go very deep, because these bodily inscriptions are very superficial.

21.science & astrology

Without knowing your past you cannot know your future, because your future will be the child of your past, your future will be born out of your past.

 

So first it is necessary that your entire memory track be exposed to view. If your memory track is unlocked – and for this there are techniques and methods – you are mistaken if you think that you will remember how your father slapped you when you were a six-year-old child. You will not remember how you were when you were six years old – you will relive it.

You will relive the event. Also, at the time you are reliving it, if I ask, “What is your name?” you will reply “Junior,” not “William Smith Junior” – a six-year-old child will be replying. You will be reliving the event at this time; you will not be remembering it. William Smith Junior is not remembering when he was six years old. No, William Smith Junior has become six years old. Now he will answer “Junior;” whatever reply he gives will be the reply of a six-year-old child.

If you were brought back to a past life and you remembered that you were a lion, then if you were disturbed at this point you would begin to roar just like a lion. You would not speak like a man. It is possible you would even attack someone with your fingers and nails. If you remembered that you were a stone and someone asked you a question, then you would remain completely silent. You would not be able to speak, you would remain like a stone.

Hubbard has helped thousands of people. For instance, if a man cannot speak, Hubbard would say that this person has been blocked by some childhood memory and cannot move on. He would then take him back along his time-track and break open his engram at the time when he was six years old, or the point at which his growth became blocked and he could not proceed. As he returns to this point, the influence of this childhood memory will disperse. Then this man will again return to being thirty years old and the twenty-four years’ difference will be put aside. The surprising thing is that thousands of medicines might not help the man to speak, but by going back along the time-track and then returning, he becomes able to.

20.science & astrology

In the human body there are hidden chakras.

Every chakra has its own unique sensation; every chakra vibrates in its own unique fashion, at its own frequency, all the time. There are ways to check what these are. Human beings have concealed within them the mental impressions or seeds of the past.

Ron Hubbard has brought a new word, a new science, to the West. For the East it is ancient. The name of this science is “time-track”. Hubbard thinks that in whatever form a man has lived and whether as man or beast, whether as plant or stone and in whatever form he has lived throughout his infinite span of lives, this entire stream of memories is still contained within him. This stream can be exposed, and a person can even be made to re-experience those memories.

In all of Hubbard’s research, this is the most valuable discovery. Hubbard has said about time-track that within man there are engrams. On the one hand, we possess a memory by which we recall what happened yesterday and what happened the day before. This is our “working” memory, this is our everyday memory. Just as every shopkeeper or office worker keeps a daily register, this is our working memory. It becomes useless every day, and then no longer exists – it is not at all permanent. This is the working memory through which we do our work every day, and then every day we throw it out.

But deeper than this is a memory which is not merely for getting work done: a memory which is our life, which sums up our entire experience, the accumulated essence of our experience throughout countless lives on the path. Hubbard has called this an “engram” – it has become ingrained within us. It lies there in its entirety, locked deep within, just as if a tape is kept locked up in your pocket. It can be opened, and when it is opened it becomes what Mahavir used to call past-life remembrance. Hubbard calls it time-track – it makes it possible for you to go back in time. When it is opened, the experience is not that you are remembering; it is not as though you are remembering, you relive the experience.

When it is unlocked, when the time-track is unlocked, you do not feel that “I am remembering.” No, you relive it. Try to understand. If your time-track is unlocked, this reliving will not be difficult. In fact, without it astrology is incomplete. The deepest realization of astrology is that your past must be unlocked, because if you become aware of your entire past then you will be aware of your entire future; your future will emerge out of your past.

19.science & astrology

The future is calling all the time, drawing us all the time.

We do not know, we are not aware. This is the weakness of our eyes, this is our short sightedness and we cannot see very far. About tomorrow, nothing is revealed to us.

If you looked at Krishnamurti’s birth chart, you would be surprised. If Annie Besant or Leadbeater had cared to look at Krishnamurti’s birth chart, they would have seen that it was wrong to work with Krishnamurti, because his birth chart clearly shows that whichever organization Krishnamurti was to belong to, he would be its destroyer. It shows that whichever organization he was to belong to, he would bring about its disintegration; whichever organization he was to join, it would die. But Annie Besant was not ready to accept this. No one could think such a thing , but this is the way it happened.

The theosophical movement tried to groom Krishnamurti as its leader. Theosophy made such an effort on Krishnamurti’s behalf that the movement died forever. Annie Besant created a large organization called the Star of the East, just for Krishna-murti. Then one day, after having inspired the organization, Krishnamurti separated himself from it. Annie Besant had dedicated her entire life to putting the organization on its feet, and had destroyed herself over it. But Krishnamurti cannot be blamed for this. The star under whose influence he was born clearly announced that he would be a destructive and disruptive force within any organization.

The future is not utterly uncertain. Our knowledge is uncertain; our ignorance is weighty. Nothing of the future seems to be revealed to us. We are blind and nothing at all of the future is revealed to us. And because nothing seems to be revealed to us, we say it is uncertain. But something of the future is revealed to us and astrology is not merely the study of what the stars and planets say, or of calculating their significance. This is only one dimension of astrology.

Then there are other dimensions of knowing the future too. People have lines on the palms of their hands, people have lines on their foreheads, lines on the soles of their feet and but this too is superficial.!?

18.science & astrology

We always look from the viewpoint of the past.

The bud is blossoming… but our thinking is generally past-oriented, bound to the past. We say that the bud is blossoming, that it is becoming a flower, that the bud will become a flower. But the reverse may be the case. For instance, if I push you from behind, I am making you go forward. But it may also be that someone is pulling you from ahead. The motion can be in both directions. I am pushing you from behind and you are going forward. It may be that someone is pulling you from ahead, and that no one is pushing you from behind. In this case too you will move forward.

Astrology recognizes the incompleteness of the perspective that the past gives the impetus and that the future happens as a result. If one views a phenomenon in its totality, one sees that the past is providing the impetus, but that the future is also exercising a pull, an attraction. The bud becoming a flower is not all that is happening. The flower is calling out to the bud to become a flower and it is exercising a pull. The past is behind, the future is ahead. Now, in the present moment, there is a bud; the entire past is pushing the bud to become a flower, and the entire future is calling on the bud to become a flower.

Under pressure from both the directions, past and future, the bud will become a flower. If there were no future, the past by itself would not be able to create the flower because the future must provide the space for the bud to become a flower. In the future a place, some space, is necessary. Only if the future provides the space will the bud be able to flower. If there were no future, then no matter how much the past tried, no matter how much it pushed you, it would be in vain. No matter how much I push you from behind, if there is a wall in front of you, I cannot make you move forward. Space is needed to move forward. If I push you and the space ahead accepts you with the invitation, “Come, be my guest,” only then can my pushing be significant. For my pushing a space in the future is needed. The past does the work; the future gives the space.

It is the view of astrology that looking from the standpoint of the past alone is in sufficient and only partially scientific.

17.science & astrology

There is an incident in Mahavir’s life over which there has been much dispute.

Because of this dispute a group of his disciples broke away from him in his very presence. Because of this dispute, five hundred of Mahavira’s monks created a separate order. Mahavir used to say that whatever is happening has in some sense already happened: if you are walking, then in a sense you have already arrived at the destination; if you are growing old, then in a sense you have already grown old. Mahavir used to say that whatever is happening, whatever is in process, has already occurred.

One long-time disciple of Mahavir lived far away from him during the monsoon. He was sick, so he asked a newer disciple who was present to spread out a mat for him. So the newer disciple began to spread out the mat and he was just unfolding the rolled-up mat when the older disciple remembered Mahavir’s saying. He said, “Stop! Mahavir says that what is happening has already happened.”

The mat was in the process of being rolled out but it had not yet been completely opened. It had suddenly occurred to him that Mahavir had said a very wrong thing. The mat was half-opened, but in what sense was it already completely opened?

He left the mat there. After the monsoon he went to Mahavir and said, “You are mistaken when you say that what is happening has already happened, because right now the mat is lying half-opened. It was being opened but it has not been opened. So I have come to prove that your saying is wrong.”

Mahavir told him that he had not understood what he had said. This disciple must have had a very childish mind, otherwise he would not have spoken that way. Mahavir said, “You have stopped the process. It was happening but you interrupted it. The mat which you prevented from unfolding was already actualizing itself in the very process of unfolding. It had, in fact, already been actualized. You only saw the mat in the process of unfolding, but one more process was going on, and that is what has already happened. Now for how long will your mat remain folded? It is becoming opened, and it will open. You go back.”

When the disciple returned he saw that a man had opened the mat and was lying on it, resting. This man had upset everything; he had destroyed the disciple’s whole theory.

When Mahavir was saying that whatever is happening has already happened, he was saying that whatever is happening is the present, whatever may be is the future. The bud which is coming into blossom somewhere has already blossomed, so it will blossom, it will become a flower. Right now the bud is in the process of flowering, right now it is only a bud, but if it is in the process of flowering, then it will flower. Its having flowered has also in a sense already occurred somewhere.

Now we should look at this from another angle. It will be a little difficult.

16.science & astrology

Astrology is a very scientific way of thinking.

It maintains that the future will emerge only out of the past: your today has emerged out of your yesterday and your tomorrow will emerge out of your today. Astrology also maintains that whatever happens tomorrow is in some subtle way present even today. Now try to understand a little about this.

Three days before his assassination, Abraham Lincoln had a dream that he had been murdered, and that his corpse was lying in a special room in the White House. He even noted the number of the room. At that point his sleep was broken, and when he woke up he laughed. He said to his wife, “I dreamed that I was murdered and that my body was lying in room number such-and-such, and in the such-and-such wing of the White House” – he was sleeping in that wing of the White House. “You stood at my head, and these people were standing all around.”

It was a joke, a laughing matter to him. Lincoln and his wife went back to sleep. Three days later Lincoln’s assassination took place. Three days later his body was lying in that number room, in that very place, and people were standing around his body in that sequence.

If what was to occur three days later had not in some way already occurred, then how could such a dream have taken place? How could the dream resemble what actually took place, in such detail? Such a glimpse is only given in a dream if in some way it is already existent in the present moment. Only then can we get a glimpse of what will take place in the future.

If we open the window of the present we will be able to see that the future is just outside this window. It is the hypothesis of astrology that the future is simply our ignorance – hence we call it  “the future”. If we were able to see it, then the future would not happen for us – we would know it is already present here and now.